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this is my fathers hydrogen fuel cell, he made it to test if they save you fuel when used along with a normal diesel engined car, we will upload the MPG results and then we can all see if they do anything! i am working on my own cells (all stainless steel plate type)and will post the details and results of these too. soon we will see….
It will put a load on the engine and this doesn’t even take into account the FACT that energy conversion causes a decrease in the energy.
This system is an additive to the existing fuel. I agree that you need to produce enough to make it worth your while. However , I disagree that is takes less power
to produce what it actually power output. 20+ amps/hour to produce 2 litres minute.
20amperes x 60 min = 1200amp in hour (1.2kAh) . 120 litres/h. extra electricity generation required such as a larger alternator and some other souces ie solar cell small wind turbines over the radiator. Convert a radiator fan to make12v dc. :-X
The question is, what does this do to the engine.
It’s not running of the hydrogen it’s mixing it with the fuel to increase efficiency of combustion. It’s basically getting more out of the fuel that’s already there. Or that’s the idea. It’s a different idea altogether. Yeah Knineu02 sounds like a bit of a tard alright.
Do you have any evidence that it works other than “I AM getting the savings I claim!”? Get some real lab results from real scientists and I might become persuaded. Until then, I don’t see it producing the savings that you are claiming.
I am an electric/mechanical engineer, my father is 40 years in the oil industry (ex BP and Philips Petroleum chief super intendant, the top guy at oil refinerys), we are not idiots, ours works, some dont as they dont make enough gas.
Im afraid thats the last reply anyone will get on the subject; believe me or not it makes no difference to me, I AM getting the savings I claim!
To those who want to have a go I say try it and make up your own mind.
Dont be funny. That small cell you can put in you ass.
Ok, some people think it does not work, for me the design i used it worked, it does has problems with overheating on the cell/generator (what ever you want to call it), mainly if its left on for more than 20 miles in hot weather, but the figures i got are correct.
i would say try it and see for yourself, but dont condem them on the sayso of others who have not tested them, dont let others do your thinking for you, if you have not tested one to prove they dont work you have no right to condem.
thats an electrolyser, not a FUEL CELL
Yes its a drain on the alternator, it gets quite hot. What they do is make a small amount of hydrogen that goes into the air intake, thats enough to enhance the burn efficiency of the diesel/air mix in the combustion chamber.
To get the fuel saving you need at least 1.8 litres per minute of gas from the generator, coffee jar designs on the net produce very little, we tested one of those and got no extra mpg, but on my own design producing 2 litres per min it worked.
If this actually worked, why not just build a generator that runs on the gas to create the electricity needed to create the gas. I mean, If you get more energy out of it then it uses, it would work. BUT since that violates laws of physics, it does nothing for you at all. This system DOES NOT WORK people, do not waste your time on it.
Someone suggested solar powered electrolyzer, that has merit, just not on a car. The extra weight would just be using up the added fuel.
Hydrogen can indeed run a car…but these devices can’t give you cold hard numbers! How much gas do they save? How much mileage do they add to your car? People who sell these can’t give you hard numbers! And if they do…ask for proof. (there is none) If these things are sooo incredible why can’t you run your entire car off of them…and elimnate gas completely? Oh, I forgot…you can’t run your car on lies and a bogus device! Brown’s gas…LOL! That’s oxidized metal in the water dummy! Wake UP
sounds like a four cylinder diesel.
Hydrogen fuel cells CONSUME hydrogen and creates electricity.
What you have here is the opposite, it consumes electricity and PRODUCES hydrogen. It’s the exact opposite.
Loool. “And that’s all from england” Love that line.
@MacsCanfly See here folks! When you have no substantive response, you jump into comments like “your a fucking idiot.” Well at least I know how to spell “you’re” the correct way when used in this context. These alternator–to HHO generator–to air intake systems–have been thoroughly debunked. The concept has been around for hundreds of years and if it was remotely possible for this to do the things these morons claim, then they would already be in cars. Your comments, MacsCanfly, confirm this.
I played around with electrolysis myself and I found that the material I was using (stainless steel rods) would corrode quite rapidly. When that happens it gets really hot and takes a lot more power to operate. The reason of course is that the corrosion adds resistance. I can’t really tell if that’s happening here or not though. To fix that problem though you will need to find a conductor that does not corrode such as carbon rods or precious metals.
In either case, nice work and good luck!
In order for this thing to improve your mileage, it would have to produce more energy than it uses. That cannot happen with this device. If it could, you should just build a generator to power your house. You also assume that some of us have not seen or tested these. I have. THEY FAIL. You cannot get more energy then you use. The electricity used to create the gas is a drain on your engine. Your alternator does not produce “extra” power.
knineu02 your a fucking idiot
Let’s try again…
I think whether it works or not is fairly obvious. You’re taking the extra power from the alternator and using it to break water into hydrogen and oxygen which will burn and decrease gasoline consumption. In comparing this to Stan Meyers device, I think he was doing something else with the power, though I don’t know what. But he did have some sort of control box and I wouldn’t be surprised to learn he was manipulating the wave patterns to get better results.
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