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I want to see something real along the lines of true data – like a dyno run or, a race that should surely have been lost – as a method to prove it is a true horsepower creator.
Only a dyno can tell you if there has been a power increase and they’d also need to do a control test before and after just in case something else changed (like a tune up which most of the scammers selling products like that recommend you do when you install it). A race that surely would have been lost does not exist (the other car could have had its engine or transmission destroy itself).
Of course HHO is a scam (actual HHO does exist as a by-product of some chemical reactions, but it’s so reactive it doesn’t long).
As for the fuel economy improvements that are claimed, if you go to lean burn you can get some improvements but that means that the catalytic converter won’t be dealing with the NOx and thus your car will no longer meet emissions regulations (which is why that particular fuel saving idea is illegal).
The ‘systems’ they sell on eBay, or on most internet searches are the scam jobs. You basically charge a stainless steel plate (often a light switch plate in rows), and it creates a chemical reaction that creates a vapor gas that really cleans your motor more than anything. If you put that on an older motor, you would see some gain. You can buy a bottle of SeaFoam or even Ferox if you want to accomplish that, and for far less money and no retrofitting the vapor to your breather of your car, and hooking wires to the charging system of your car.
There is a way to burn on this gas, but if you run on pure HHO, the engine will go 50-150 miles and die. The heat will kill the motor. There are all kinds of videos from India where they do this.
I have seen many baffled mechanical engineers and mechanics try to build from the plans, and most get to where they say it’s more trouble to get it figured out from these eBay plans, or if you pull it off, you kill the motor. It’s simply not worth it. There is nothing you are going to get that is going give you something for nothing. You have spend more than you actually get.
Total waste of time, energy and money. Virtually all rigs bought off the Internet to actually run on HHO are above the average backyard mechanic, and the cleaning bottle version is silly.
Save your money.
There would actually be a reduction in horsepower even if you were piping in hydrogen directly from a tank rather than the HHO nonsense (note HHO is still 2 H’s and 1 O so it’s still H2O, calling it HHO is just to fool the foolish. if anything they should be saying something like H- and OH+ or HOH to reflect actual bonds and aqueous disassociation but the fools that they target would just get confused). The lower horsepower is due to the fact that Hydrogen is a gas and is quite voluminous hence effectively leans out the engine, the same is true when you run an engine on compressed natural gas, the horsepower is lower.
If you just inject water into an internal combustion engine, there will be some apparent increase in torque but this is not due to any hydrogen. This is due to the phase change from liquid water to steam, ie.: a steam engine. This is well known and some racers actually do have water injection systems as they are not concerned about the corrosive effects to their engines. There is also a measurable amount of hydrogen that’s unaccounted for by electrolysis but that’s from the oxidation of CO and carbon deposits as well as the water gas shift reaction of CO2 with H2O under the heat and pressures found within the cylinders. The presence of hydrogen is really more an indication of how badly those HHO kits are making your engine run.
You should probably go in for some real data like an IQ test.
since there is no chemical with a formula of HHO, no one can answer your question. If you can produce 1 HHO molecule(s) you would win a nobel peace prize in chemistry.
Nice try.
The southwest research institute in san antonio, TX has run H2 gas with gasoline and they have loads of data if you are interested in H2 gas as energy storage system.
The results show that HP drops with the addition of H2 in the fuel, so therefore the engine consumes less fuel, but it can do less work. The net was no change in work per energy input. On the up side, NOx and CO emissions were reduced, but so what, the catalytic converter does the same.
The whole thing sounds like a scam. While adding hydrogen and oxygen to the air-fuel mix will increase power, it takes more energy to break the water down into HHO than you get back during combustion. Otherwise, you would have a perpetual-motion machine, and those don’t exist. You can’t get something for nothing.
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